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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,
The standard procedure is Apple Menu--&gt;System Preferences--&gt;Print &amp; Fax, then click the add button on the lower left, then the Windows button on the next pane. I assume you&#039;ve tried that? If you can&#039;t see the computer on the workgroup from there, I&#039;d make sure you can see the computer (and the shared printer) from another XP box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,<br />
The standard procedure is Apple Menu&#8211;>System Preferences&#8211;>Print &#038; Fax, then click the add button on the lower left, then the Windows button on the next pane. I assume you&#8217;ve tried that? If you can&#8217;t see the computer on the workgroup from there, I&#8217;d make sure you can see the computer (and the shared printer) from another XP box.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I&#039;ve tried the standard stuff and the printer and network are available from all other Windows machines. I appreciate the ideas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;ve tried the standard stuff and the printer and network are available from all other Windows machines. I appreciate the ideas!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there&#039;s no firewall that might be preventing the Mac from seeing the XP box, right?

It could be a thousand things, of course. Not being as skilled as you, I can&#039;t tell without looking at the Mac.

You might try installing Bonjour for Windows (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/bonjourforwindows.html). Bonjour is Apple&#039;s zero-conf networking protocol and while I&#039;ve found virtually no difference between Bonjour printing, IP printing and printing through sharing, it might help in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there&#8217;s no firewall that might be preventing the Mac from seeing the XP box, right?</p>
<p>It could be a thousand things, of course. Not being as skilled as you, I can&#8217;t tell without looking at the Mac.</p>
<p>You might try installing Bonjour for Windows (<a href="http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/bonjourforwindows.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/bonjourforwindows.html</a>). Bonjour is Apple&#8217;s zero-conf networking protocol and while I&#8217;ve found virtually no difference between Bonjour printing, IP printing and printing through sharing, it might help in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, tried that and there is no firewall problem, because I can see the Mac from the PC&#039;s, and I can do the SMB:// command and get to a shared folder manually from the Mac, but it won&#039;t browse or see the workgroup or the shared printer.

Frustrating part to is that I spent two hour on hold with Mac with two different people and they couldn&#039;t tell me either. I need to try calling again tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, tried that and there is no firewall problem, because I can see the Mac from the PC&#8217;s, and I can do the SMB:// command and get to a shared folder manually from the Mac, but it won&#8217;t browse or see the workgroup or the shared printer.</p>
<p>Frustrating part to is that I spent two hour on hold with Mac with two different people and they couldn&#8217;t tell me either. I need to try calling again tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday, using 10.4 I had no problems with
printing.  Actually I was amazed how easy it
was to set up Mac to Windows printing under 10.4.
Today I upgraded (applied 10.5.1 patch too) and
nope.  Workgroup printing fails.  I had to
follow other folks&#039; advice and add the printer
(hp 1300 on an XP sp2) through the SMB procedure.
I also learned to use the &lt;control&gt; &lt;mouse click&gt;
to add the advanced setup to the print setup.

In the end, I created a non prived user account
with a password and use that with the setting

smb//username/ipaddress/sharedprintername

When I print it asks for a password.  I changed the
username to the shared account and entered the password
and checked the &quot;key chain&quot; option.

I did that once for every user on the MAC.  A pain
for now.  I hope  this helps and Apple fixes this
or clearly states that this is how it will be in the
future.  I hope not.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, using 10.4 I had no problems with<br />
printing.  Actually I was amazed how easy it<br />
was to set up Mac to Windows printing under 10.4.<br />
Today I upgraded (applied 10.5.1 patch too) and<br />
nope.  Workgroup printing fails.  I had to<br />
follow other folks&#8217; advice and add the printer<br />
(hp 1300 on an XP sp2) through the SMB procedure.<br />
I also learned to use the <control> <mouse click><br />
to add the advanced setup to the print setup.</p>
<p>In the end, I created a non prived user account<br />
with a password and use that with the setting</p>
<p>smb//username/ipaddress/sharedprintername</p>
<p>When I print it asks for a password.  I changed the<br />
username to the shared account and entered the password<br />
and checked the &#8220;key chain&#8221; option.</p>
<p>I did that once for every user on the MAC.  A pain<br />
for now.  I hope  this helps and Apple fixes this<br />
or clearly states that this is how it will be in the<br />
future.  I hope not.</p>
<p>Dave</mouse></control></p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I tried the smb: route as well and can&#039;t get it to go. I will try again and see what happens. It is quite strange because I can see the Mac from the PC&#039;s, but the Mac only saw the PC&#039;s and workgroup one time. I can use &quot;log into server&quot; to see the shares on a PC, but it won&#039;t come automatically and the printing is fruitless. Ughh. Otherwise, the Mac has been a joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I tried the smb: route as well and can&#8217;t get it to go. I will try again and see what happens. It is quite strange because I can see the Mac from the PC&#8217;s, but the Mac only saw the PC&#8217;s and workgroup one time. I can use &#8220;log into server&#8221; to see the shares on a PC, but it won&#8217;t come automatically and the printing is fruitless. Ughh. Otherwise, the Mac has been a joy.</p>
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